Posts Tagged ‘Small Pistol Primers’

Reloading primers: Fiocchi Small Pistol

Tuesday, August 10th, 2010

The recent reloading primer shortage has left many reloaders with few options for primers (if they are available at all). The good news is that some less common primers have surfaced or at least become more popular. I for instance have started using Wolf primers, and so far they have performed well for me both in the reloading press (feeding) and at the range.

For a while, I’ve been wondering about Fiocchi primers, so I thought I would give them a try, starting with small pistol (those have been hard for me to find in particular). I just got a shipment  of 1500 of these primers (10 packs of 150) from Lucky Gunner (click here for product link) so that I could try these out.

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The first test was to load up some 9mm ammo on the Hornady Lock-N-Load AP. The primers loaded without issue- and I was using mixed headstamp brass (sometimes a grab bag for primer seating consistency).

Next, I measured these primers in comparison with Winchester Small Pistol (WSP), and here’s what I found:

Diameter: 0.175″ (Winchester), 0.175″ (Fiocchi)

Height: 0.119″ (Winchester), 0.120″ (Fiocchi)

So dimensionally, they seem pretty equivalent. Next, I’ll take these to the range and shoot a bunch of 9mm reloads with my Glock 17 to test out ignition performance. Following that, I think I’ll try some Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers!

I’ll let you all know how it goes. Anyone want to share their experiences with these primers?

Thanks,
Gavin

Reloading primers – where to get them!

Thursday, May 27th, 2010

This last couple of years has been difficult for reloaders. The shortage of bullets, primers, and powder have made it difficult or impossible for some to reload. This can be extremely frustrating. I’ve read posts online from individuals that have purchased reloading presses, and have had to wait 6 months or longer for the consumables needed to start loading. Bummer!

Primers, one of the vital ingredients for reloading

Primers, one of the vital ingredients for reloading

Pictured above:

  • Foreground: Winchester Larege Pistol Primers (WLP) a great dual-purpose primer (for magnum and non-magnum loads)
  • Right: Wolf Large Pistol Primers – a good general non-magnum large pistol primer
  • Back Right: CCI BR2 Benchrest Large Rifle Primers
  • Back Middle: Wolf Small Pistol Primers
  • Left Foreground: Federal #100 Small Pistol Primers and Federal #200 Small Pistol Magnum primers

I’ve had good luck with feeding and reliability with all of these primers. Some firearms require special considerations and attention when selecting a primer- such as my Ruger gp100 357 Magnum revolver. It has lightened springs and requires a primer with a soft cup (such as the Winchester WSP Small Pistol Primer – it does not have any plating and has soft brass construction).

So how and where can you get ahold of primers? This can be a difficult problem, but you have basically two options:

Option 1: Buy Local

It’s always nice if you can buy primers locally. The price may be higher, but you won’t need to pay shipping or hasmat (Hazardous Materials) fees to get them to your door. The problem is- it’s difficult to find gun shops or shooting ranges that sell reloading supplies, and if they do, the chance they have primers in stock (the ones that you need) is low. But it doesn’t hurt to get on the phone and see what you can find.

Option 2: Buy Online

If you can’t find what you need locally, you’ll need to buy online, or from a mail-order supplier. In this case, you *may* have more luck finding the exact primers that you need. If you purchase online, you’ll probably pay something like $15-25. for shipping, and you can add a $25. hasmat fee on top of that. Because of this overhead, you will want to try and find a supplier online that has the primers (and powder) that you need in stock, and in sufficient quantities to allow you to “stock up”. If you order in larger quantities (including a group buy with friends) the shipping and hasmat fees become more tolerable.

So, having said all that, where to buy primers online? Here are some options:

  1. MidwayUSA – (www.midwayusa.com) – Midway usually has good prices, has accurate inventory, and you can even sign up for product arrival notifications
  2. Cabelas – (www.cabelas.com) – Cabelas has a decent selection of primers and powder, and you can even find these supplies at your local Cabelas retail store if they have them in stock (assuming you live within driving distance of a store)
  3. Grafs and Sons – (www.grafs.com) – these guys have a good site, and give good inventory details
  4. Widener’s - (http://www.wideners.com/) – Good prices and good selection
  5. Midsouth shooter’s supply – (http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/) – An online retailer with a great reputation
  6. Powder Valley (http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/) – The website is a bit old-school, but they have really good prices and selection

There you have it- some of the popular places to buy reloading primers online. I hope you find this list useful.

I know we are all hoping that the reloading component (and general ammunition) shortage subsides, that would make our hobby much more affordable for sure. In the mean time, keep an eye on the various retailer’s inventories, and be considerate to your fellow reloaders buy not price gouging if you sell primers to someone, and order only what you’ll need in the foreseeable future.

Happy loading and shooting!